black people need to ditch Hip-Hop

Hip-Hop is FUKCED UP.

the MUSIC is bad – the MESSAGE is bad – the IMAGES are bad.

CULTURE?

Hip-Hop ain’t no CULTURE no more – and EVEN IF IT IS still a CULTURE – it’s a CULTURE of DESTRUCTION…SELF-DESTRUCTION.

to all the parents out there, i STRONGLY ADVISE YOU to keep your kids AS FAR AWAY FROM ‘HIP-HOP’ as HUMANLY POSSIBLE.

Hip-Hop is TAINTED, PLAGUED, and POISONED.

RIGHTEOUS people don’t control it any more – HAVEN’T FOR DECADES now.

Hip-Hop ain’t just ENTERTAINMENT anymore – it’s PROPAGANDA…and if you buy into any of Hip-Hop’s mantras, principles, and / or ideologies, you’re setting yourself up for failure & regret.

HIP-HOP HAS SHAPE-SHIFTED.

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16 thoughts on “black people need to ditch Hip-Hop

  1. food is dead.
    because mcdonalds and burger king.

    air is dead.
    because beijing pollution.

    sex is dead.
    because crummy porn.

    the internets are dead.
    because rampant spam.

    comedy is dead.
    because dane cook.

    art is dead.
    because faux paintings at ikea…

    • i don’t consider Hip-Hop “ART” anymore –

      let’s remember that Hip-Hop = HIGHER INFINITE POWER HEALING OUR PEOPLE

      THAT is dead

      Hip-Hop today is about 15% “ART”.

      and i’ll even be so bold to say THIS:

      Hip-Hop is DEAD because it’s not moving Black people FORWARD or TOGETHER…it’s moving us BACKWARDS and DIVIDING us (to say the LEAST) – QUOTE THAT, sir…real talk.

  2. hip-hop is no longer even a definable thing.
    anyone can start a sentence with the noun known as hip hop.
    it is a vague word now.
    not specific at all.

    if someone says that rock and roll is dead, you might ask what they mean by rock and roll.
    and the answers will all vary.

    and assuming you like even a few musicians who might be called hip hop,
    which most people do,
    then you must begin to separate (individual) artists from the collective concept of (hip hop) as described.

    hip hop is not a unified concept.
    not a unified mass.
    not a unified people.
    not a unified movement…

    once you break out the individuals from the wrapping paper,
    then hip hop is not dead at all.

    the stuff on the radio with the 2 chainz and the nicki minaj and all that garbage.
    that’s about as relevant to me as pollution in beijing.
    right?
    i can breathe fresh air in hood canal or bellingham and only three parts per million of that nicki minaj carbon monoxide is floating across the ocean to get me.

    why are you going to let a bunch of industry clowns on the television ruin your authentic artists that you like?
    that’s like saying gay marriage is going to spoil marriage for the straight people.
    remember that one?

    • “hip-hop is no longer even a definable thing.
      anyone can start a sentence with the noun known as hip hop.
      it is a vague word now.
      not specific at all.”

      DILUTED, dead; same difference – if it’s SUBJECTIVE, and can be defined by anyone in any context they choose, it’s DEAD – it’s CLICHE now – a term that has no direct, definable power behind it anymore; just as the CULTURE has no direct, definable power behind it.

      “hip hop is not a unified concept.
      not a unified mass.
      not a unified people.
      not a unified movement…”

      NOT ANYMORE – again, more proof as to Hip-Hop being DEAD

      “once you break out the individuals from the wrapping paper,
      then hip hop is not dead at all.”

      NOT TRUE.

      EXCEPTIONS don’t overshadow the MAJORITY-AGREED definition, direction, and general CONSENSUS of what Hip-Hop is and the state of it.

      “the stuff on the radio with the 2 chainz and the nicki minaj and all that garbage.
      that’s about as relevant to me as pollution in beijing.”

      it’s not about “ME”…it’s not about YOU. Hip-Hop is about US – OUR – COLLECTIVE – at least – that WAS what it was about before Hip-Hop got co-opted and killed.

      “why are you going to let a bunch of industry clowns on the television ruin your authentic artists that you like?”

      AGAIN – it’s not about ME and which artists I LIKE – it’s about the BIGGER PICTURE – and the same people that view Hip-Hop in a ‘ME’ perspective are the same ones with a faulty understanding of it and thus are CONTRIBUTORS to the untimely demise of Hip-Hop.

      • “AGAIN – it’s not about ME and which artists I LIKE – it’s about the BIGGER PICTURE – and the same people that view Hip-Hop in a ‘ME’ perspective are the same ones with a faulty understanding of it and thus are CONTRIBUTORS to the untimely demise of Hip-Hop.”

        the point i am trying to make is that it is all about (me) the listener.
        not (me) hamock but the greater (me) as it applies to each fan.
        each of us experiences only one perception.
        i can’t listen to music crossing through someone else’s brain reaction.

        fans do get to choose what they like,
        there are going to be major media smokescreens preventing all but the most active listeners.
        the passive ones will be shepherded into the hype of empty music.

        the active listeners will always seek and find the music that interests them.
        and they will build subcultures within hip hop.

        this has already happened in many ways.
        can you appreciate the idea of a subcuture?

  3. “i can’t listen to music crossing through someone else’s brain reaction.”

    that’s where i DISAGREE at. but that delves into COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS; which is at an all-time low int the Black community PARTLY due to (dead) Hip-Hop.

    “each of us experiences only one perception.”

    how people as a GROUP ‘collectively perceive’ is measured and manipulated; quite routinely – simple marketing 101 – Hip-Hop is no exception.

    “the passive ones will be shepherded into the hype of empty music.”

    which is the MAJORITY!!! the ‘COLLECTIVE’!!!

    “can you appreciate the idea of a subcuture?”

    i sure can…but when the sub-culture is a MINUSCULE MINORITY, you gotta be careful how much leverage you give them in the GRAND SCHEME of things –

  4. “it’s not about “ME”…it’s not about YOU. Hip-Hop is about US – OUR – COLLECTIVE – at least – that WAS what it was about before Hip-Hop got co-opted and killed.

    AGAIN – it’s not about ME and which artists I LIKE – it’s about the BIGGER PICTURE – and the same people that view Hip-Hop in a ‘ME’ perspective are the same ones with a faulty understanding of it and thus are CONTRIBUTORS to the untimely demise of Hip-Hop.”

    i’m glad you raised this point because i used the wrong angle.
    this is clearly not about which groups i think are hip hop and which groups you think are hip hop or which groups either of us or both of us think should just drink hemlock.

    discussions are always infinitely better when they are universal to all people and not just an ego ping pong match where two people just say what they feel and talk about themselves back and forth.
    it needs to build to useful breakthroughs for new ideas and images.

    that being said,
    one person’s experience with a new insight is sometimes all it takes for a paradigm shift to occur.
    so when we look to the individual, it is not to find data for an economics 101 survey or to add them to some kind of list, but to look for the things which that listener finds unique or especially alive.

    “…but that delves into COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS”

    this thread might be going in a new and more mind blowing direction.

    can you expand how this can relate to the more or less authentic subcultures vs. the mainstream nicki minaj crap machine?

    • “can you expand how this can relate to the more or less authentic subcultures vs. the mainstream nicki minaj crap machine?”

      the machine is a master programmer – it dictates reality, perception, self-esteem, etc.

      i’m not gonna delve too deep into the ‘machine’ here, because this isn’t the time nor place that i want to do that…BUT

      just know this

      the MACHINE dictates WHO is ‘hot’, WHAT is ‘hot’, and WHEN it’s ‘hot’.

      if you can DICTATE those three things, MILLION upon MILLIONS of dollars are made…and MILLIONS of dollars in NOT just that INDUSTRY in which the TRENDS are dictated.

      the machine has an EXPONENTIAL COMPOUND effect on SOCIETY which translates to NUMBERS ($), status-quo preservation, and dehumanization of modern civilization (which is PROFITABLE too)

      SUB-CULTURES are an AFTERTHOUGHT in the grand-scheme of things – a mere RECESS in a school / curriculum of PROGRAMMING…(and i ain’t talking C# or JAVA)

      which again leads me back to my original point – BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO DITCH HIP-HOP

  5. “which again leads me back to my original point – BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO DITCH HIP-HOP”

    people need to (re-invent) hip hop.
    it might not look the same on the other side,
    but the music is a powerful legacy and cultural anchor,
    that is difficult to let go.
    hip hop raised two generations of americans.

    you can’t euthanize your ancestors.
    not if you have even a grain of humanity.

    • “people need to (re-invent) hip hop.”

      NEGATIVE – Hip-Hop has been co-opted – AS EVIDENCED BY THE BEST-SELLING RAPPER OF ALL-TIME (which is a WHITE MAN, btw) – Black people need to make something NEW altogether – Hip-Hop is TOO polluted and too diluted at this point – it needs to be PUT OUT OF IT’S MISERY; left alone to wither and die COMPLETELY.

      “but the music is a powerful legacy and cultural anchor,
      that is difficult to let go”

      to let go of Hip-Hop NOW is for the GREATER GOOD of Black people as a WHOLE…that shit is KILLING US (MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY, LOGICALLY, MORALLY, LITERALLY, & FIGURATIVELY) – (so much to the point that i HAD TO write & record a song about it) –

      • “…that shit is KILLING US (MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY, SPIRITUALLY, LOGICALLY, MORALLY, LITERALLY, & FIGURATIVELY) – (so much to the point that i HAD TO write & record a song about it)”

        it’s one of my favorite fyle formatz tracks.
        that whole part from 1:04 to 1:25 grinds to a perfect halt.
        as though the bus had slowed and slowed, stopped, then began going in reverse.
        or a pirate ship ride at the disney whatever land where it reaches the highest point then goes back down.
        there are lots of metaphors to apply to it.

        taking people backward after going forward for so long…
        same 10 things…

  6. “you can’t euthanize your ancestors.
    not if you have even a grain of humanity”

    gotta destroy before you build sometimes.

    OR

    it kinda reminds me of a zombie movie…where one of your loved ones gets bitten and turned into a zombie…now your loved one is chasing you, trying to bite / eat / kill you – and now, in order to save yourself, you have to kill them (again).

    HIP-HOP is in ZOMBIE-MODE right now…BITING Black people in EPIDEMIC proportions – and it needs to be stopped.

    (better to kill a few ancestors than an entire race, generation after generation)

  7. “…but that delves into COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS”

    is this optional or does everyone participate?
    can you remove yourself from the collective mind?
    permanently? temporarily?

    • “is this optional or does everyone participate?
      can you remove yourself from the collective mind?
      permanently? temporarily?”

      GREAT questions.

      now that you mention it, everybody DOES participate – just on different levels / in different degrees.

      for example…think about the concept of “THE AMERICAN DREAM”…that too is a ‘collective consciousness’ concept that we all participate in on different levels / to different degrees…

      same thing with Hip-Hop.

      any concept that is MASS-MARKETED, MASS-PROMOTED, and MASS-ADVERTISED is a concept that affects, shapes, and alters MASS-CONSCIOUSNESS – – – or – – – COLLECTIVE-CONSCIOUSNESS.

      no…we cannot remove ourselves 100% from the collective-mind because even if we discard one concept, we’ll still be subscribed to another…follow me?

      for example – – – if i quit ANYTHING and EVERYTHING relating to Hip-Hop (removing myself from the Hip-Hop collective-consciousness), i’d just ‘swap’ one concept for another – such as ‘peace on earth’, or even ‘Y.O.L.O.’.

      our existences here on earth are based on a COMBINATION of concepts – – – about ourselves AND the world around us – – – THUS shaping REALITY as we know it.

      CONCEPTS are like PUZZLE PIECES…and each of those puzzle pieces (which are individual concepts) COMBINE to form a PICTURE – – – or a REALITY – a ‘WORLD’ –

      “permanently? temporarily?”

      we each have the option to discard or renew our subscriptions to concepts and their collective-consciousnesses…at any time.

      like you said earlier, mind over matter.

      in summary; REALITY is just a combination of CONCEPTS (ideas, principles, images, and beliefs) – – – and COLLECTIVELY – some of those REALITIES (actions manifesting from concepts) are self-IMPROVING, while others are self-DESTRUCTIVE (i.e., Hip-Hop)…and if you add up all of the concepts that create the COLLECTIVE-CONSCIOUSNESS of Hip-Hop, you’ll end up with a negative conceptual force…and a shit-load of negative actions that are the result – – – as evidenced on W.S.H.H. – – – monthly, daily…HOURLY.

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